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A Range of Views


During April and May, a series of listening sessions was held to gather the input of different constituent groups regarding the professional experience and qualities that Baylor’s next president should possess.

Edited by Todd Copeland
Illustration by Mike Lathrop / Photographs by Jerry Lawson, Waco Tribune-Herald, and Meg Cullar


For five weeks, from April 14 to May 21, the members of the two committees formally involved in the search for Baylor’s next president got an earful (or two) of advice, opinion, criticism, and affirmation. It was input they welcomed—input they said was important, both for the many groups within the Baylor family to offer and for the search committees to collect for use in sketching out the desired profile for the man or woman who will serve as Baylor’s fourteenth president.

The input came during a series of “listening sessions” held by the Presidential Search Committee and the Presidential Search Advisory Committee, both of which were appointed by Baylor’s Board of Regents. Described on the university’s website as an effort “to engage the entire Baylor family in the presidential search process by providing an opportunity for Baylor’s major constituencies to discuss the desired experience, personal and professional qualities for Baylor’s next chief executive,” the listening sessions held over the five-week period were a mixture of private and open meetings.

According to Baylor regent Joe Armes, chair of the Presidential Search Committee, the listening sessions were an important opportunity to hear from those who deeply care about Baylor. “It is encouraging to see members of Baylor’s faculty, staff, students, and alumni investing their time and wisdom in this process,” he told the Line. “The search process will benefit from the listening sessions in that all that we do will be informed by the wisdom and insight we gathered over the past few weeks. Interestingly, there was great diversity in opinions regarding the exact skill set, experience, or academic credentials that are most desirable in Baylor’s next president. However, there was virtual unanimity in the desire for Baylor’s next president to be a committed Christian who has a clear understanding of and a passion for Baylor’s mission and vision who models true servant leadership.”

The staff of the Baylor Line attended all nine of the open meetings with Baylor’s various constituent groups, and the Baylor Alumni Association (BAA) is pleased to provide its members with the following compilation of the staff’s reports “from the field.” In addition to those meetings, the two committees held private sessions for Waco-area community leaders, Baptist General Convention of Texas leaders, Baylor faculty, Council of Deans, Staff Council, Student Government, and the administration’s Executive Council.

Jeff Kilgore, executive vice president and CEO of the BAA, attended several of the open meetings and described them as significant opportunities for the members of Baylor’s Board of Regents to hear directly from Baylor’s constituent groups. “For the regents serving on the search committee and the advisory committee members to open themselves up to an outpouring of opinion and emotion was a very healthy thing for the Baylor family,” he said.

Kilgore added that he hopes whomever the regents hire as Baylor’s next president will use the search committee’s process of engagement as a springboard for building increased consensus within the Baylor community through direct interaction. He encouraged both the administration and the Board of Regents to demonstrate a welcoming attitude toward stakeholders’ input—especially from the thousands of people around the state and beyond who hold Baylor diplomas.

“We’ve all lived through Baylor in the recent years and have either witnessed or directly experienced divisive actions and the turmoil that’s troubled Baylor’s recent presidents and the Board of Regents,” Kilgore said. “If the spirit and process shown by these listening sessions is allowed to grow and become part of how Baylor lives out its mission, then we will have made a huge step forward out of this period of controversy and divisiveness. It’s going to take us all to move Baylor forward to where she needs to be.”

Two committees are guiding the presidential search process: a Presidential Search Committee, composed of Baylor regents who ultimately will recommend a candidate to the full governing board, and a Presidential Search Advisory Committee, composed of representatives of Baylor constituent groups. (Go to Guiding the Search for a complete list of committee members.) While no more listening sessions are scheduled, alumni are still able to provide input about the desired profile for Baylor’s next president on the university’s website at baylor.edu/president/search. The BAA encourages you to share your opinions with the Presidential Search and Advisory Committees.


April 14 / Baylor faculty listening session

Presidential Search Committee members present: Allcorn, Armes, Bailey, Dagnel, Elliston, Getterman, and Peña
Presidential Search Advisory Committee members present: Diaz-Granados, Green, Parsons, and Phillips

About forty Baylor faculty members gathered on Tuesday, April 14, from 1:30 to 3 p.m. to share their expectations for a new Baylor president with members of the committees who will be searching for Baylor’s next leader. Following the meeting, advisory committee member Tom Phillips said he was impressed by the “commitment of the faculty, their passion for Baylor, and their dedication to students.” He noted that, although many people expressed differing opinions, he saw enough common ground to feel hopeful.

“It seemed to me that the differences were nuanced rather than stark,” he said. “Obviously, everyone is keenly interested in having a president who can build consensus and unite the school’s various constituencies. Most speakers voiced the need for a president who exhibited outstanding scholarship, academic experience, understanding of Baylor’s unique role in the academic world, deep spiritual commitment, and respect for the spiritual journey of others in the Baylor community.”

Search committee chair Joe Armes told the gathered faculty members, “We would like to hear from you about the personal qualities and characteristics and professional qualities and characteristics that you would expect to see in Baylor’s next president.” He said that the search committee had decided to gather input from various Baylor constituencies “before we create a profile, before we describe the job, before we create an ad, before anything like that.”

University professor of theology and literature Dr. Ralph Wood was the first to take to the microphone. He said Baylor’s next president needs to be “a person of very large vision” and “a very large religious figure.” He also believes, he said, that the next president should carry forward Baylor 2012, the university’s ten-year vision.

Later in the meeting, senior lecturer Dr. Lynn Tatum (pictured above, addressing committee members) noted that Baylor was nearing the end of the 2012 timetable. Saying that it was possible a president would not be hired before 2011, he said, “I think there needs to be a stronger emphasis on finding a president who can begin to articulate a vision, rather than how they can carry out the current vision, which we’re getting close to the end of.”

Tatum also told the committee that they were “starting a little bit behind schedule” because they were looking for a “tier-one type president” with a search committee that was lacking in faculty representation. “Typically, that happens at a very high level at tier-one universities,” he said. He encouraged the committee to bring a faculty member into the process at the “final point” to ask the candidate “the kinds of questions an academic can ask.”

Associate professor of educational psychology Dr. Eric Robinson also noted the controversy over the makeup of the search committee, saying that Baylor’s constituency groups were rebuffed in the process. Robinson said that any person considered for president would be aware of the need to “bring these groups together when they didn’t have a strong voice in bringing that person to the campus.” Robinson asked the committee to reflect on a question: “How are you going to help that leader overcome that barrier of not having much of a voice heard from constituent groups that have asked for that voice?”

Several faculty members, including Tommye Lou Davis—associate professor of Latin, Master Teacher, and former chief of staff to Baylor President Robert Sloan—voiced a desire to have a president who understands Baylor’s commitment to students. “I think that it is extremely important for Baylor to have a president that is approachable and that cares deeply about students,” she said. She also said the next president needs to understand “what the integration of faith and learning really means.”

Dr. Robert Baird, professor of philosophy and Master Teacher, also said that the next president needs to understand Baylor’s commitment to teaching. While acknowledging that Baylor had made a “major transition” from a teaching to a research university, he said, “Baylor has always had a niche. And that niche, in large measure, has been the impact we’ve had on young people. We need a president who appreciates that history of Baylor and will continue to pursue that vision.”

Baird said to the committee members, “As I look at that table up there, I see several of you who were, in fact, my students at one time, and I’m convinced that you have appreciation for the role that Baylor can play in the lives of students as we focus on teaching.”

Baird also said the committee needs to seek a president who has “collegiality as part of his or her mindset.” He said, “My genuine hope is that the new president will have a collegial spirit and will be very concerned to engage the faculty in conversation about the direction of the university.”

A bit of back-and-forth conversation between committee and audience ensued when Dr. Dianna Vitanza, associate professor and interim chair of English, said that the next president needs a deep knowledge of Baylor. Other faculty members said that was too limiting, but that higher education experience was essential.

Dr. Bob Kruschwitz, professor of philosophy, cautioned the committee that imposing a large number of specific requirements would be extremely limiting. “I would encourage the search committee to start with capacity and ability rather than with restrictions on past experience,” he said.

In response to a question from Tatum, Armes clarified that, as an ex-officio member of the Board of Regents, the next president would have to be a member of a Baptist church.

Faculty members came and went during the meeting, which was held in Tidwell Bible Building’s Miller Chapel, since some of them were teaching class during that time. Held the day following Easter break, the meeting was announced to faculty members in an e-mail on April 8.

And while the crowd was well below the capacity of the room, advisory committee member Phillips said he wasn’t disappointed. “If it had been advertised for a month and had been the only opportunity for input, I would say it was disappointing,” he said. “But there will be other opportunities, and I think the faculty and the search committee understand that.”Meg Cullar and Lisa Asher


April 22 / Baylor students listening session

Presidential Search Committee members present: Armes, Bailey, Brooks, and Peña
Presidential Search Advisory Committee members present: Saylors

On Wednesday, April 22, between fifty and sixty students gathered in Tidwell Bible Building’s Miller Chapel for an open student listening session with members of the Baylor Presidential Search and Advisory Committees. The atmosphere at the session, which took place between 5 and 6:30 p.m. on the day before Diadeloso, was often lively and upbeat, with occasional bursts of laughter and applause from the attendees.

During the hour-and-a-half session, nearly thirty students took a turn at the microphone, and about ten of those returned for a second comment. Emily Saultz, a junior pre-med student from Amarillo, echoed what a number of students said when she described the qualities she would like to see in Baylor’s next president. “I would use the words ‘available, open, and listening’,” she said, adding that the president should be “just very present on campus.”

Another common concern among the students was the integration of faith and learning. Zach Rogers, a pre-business major from Cypress, said, “I personally think we can be a top-tier school while integrating faith into our academics and by having certain requirements such as Chapel and religion. I believe that the next president needs to uphold those values as much as possible.”

Several students cited the importance of Baylor 2012, Baylor’s ten-year vision, and said it was the reason they decided to come to the university. “I think it’s important that we have a president that can take us up to 2012 and then beyond 2012,” said Matt Moore, a sophomore Baylor Business Fellow from Ruston, Louisiana. “Hopefully, this is a long-term president. We want someone who can take us beyond 2012, that can continue to cast a vision for where Baylor’s going to be in the future.”

Trenton Smith, a sophomore Great Texts major from San Antonio, said that too much emphasis was placed on Baylor 2012 and Baylor’s goal of being a top-tier, research institution.

“I feel like we are so obsessed with that U.S. News & World Report ranking that we lose sight of the fact that this is a university of students, of people,” Smith said. “We’re not numbers. We’re not statistics. We’re not just checkbooks. We are people. And we need to have a president that encourages professors to teach and to love students first and to love sharing their knowledge first.”

The topics of ethnic and religious diversity prompted several exchanges, including one between regent Joe Armes and Travis Chapman, an Oklahoma sophomore, who pointed to a growing “ecumenical spirit” on campus, citing the renaming of the Bobo Baptist Center to the Spiritual Life Center. “Do you think it’s important that we try to find a president with those same goals in mind?” he asked Armes. “And if so, would you consider hiring a non-Baptist president?”

Armes explained that the university’s bylaws require that regents be a member of a Baptist church and that Baylor’s president is an ex-officio member of that board. When Chapman asked him how he would define Baptist, Armes quipped, “I wouldn’t.” He added, “It doesn’t have to say Baptist in the name of the church, but it’s more in relating to other Baptist churches in the theology and the beliefs of the church.”

A number of students noted what one labeled “warring factions” on campus and called for a president who would be able to unite the Baylor family. “We need someone who’s been away from the controversy and can kind of look at everything with a fresh set of eyes,” said Stef Shrader, a senior political science and film major.

Following the meeting, advisory committee member Chelsea Saylors said she was pleased by the attendance and by the questions and comments that students posed. “The students who attended the listening session were both articulate and passionate,” she said. “They have a clear opinion and perspective on Baylor’s future.”Lisa Asher


April 22 / Baylor faculty listening session

Presidential Search Committee members present: Armes, Bailey, Brooks, Getterman, and Peña
Presidential Search Advisory Committee members present: Diaz-Granados, Funai, Green, Hall, and Parsons

The second time Baylor faculty members met with representatives of Baylor’s Presidential Search Committee and Presidential Search Advisory Committee, the professors came armed with lists—five tasks for the next president, four things to look for in a president, three models of faith and learning, two kinds of leadership, and one downfall that got two presidents fired (at other institutions).

On Wednesday, April 22, at 9:30 a.m., about forty Baylor faculty members came to Tidwell Bible Building’s Miller Chapel to express their views to those who are searching for candidates to lead Baylor. Seventeen faculty members came to the microphone to speak to the committee members in a meeting that lasted about an hour and fifteen minutes. One professor apologized for the small crowd—which was about the same size as at the first faculty listening session—and noted that the hour of day was “prime class time.”

Religion professor Dr. Bill Bellinger took to the microphone early and defined the top-five tasks of a president as fundraising, the public relations task of representing Baylor to its constituencies, representing Baylor to other universities and to Big 12 institutions in particular, managing a complex entity, and helping Baylor “as a community” to craft a vision for the future.

Bellinger also had a list of qualities important to accomplishing those tasks. He said the new president needs to be “someone who understands our context.” That person would need to be a Baptist, possibly a graduate, possibly someone from Texas, “but at least someone who would understand our setting,” he said. Secondly, Bellinger said administrative experience in the academic world is important. And thirdly, he said, he’d like someone who can resolve “what is widely perceived as the conflict between the Board of Regents and the leaders of the alumni association, because at least the perception is causing us difficulty in accomplishing some tasks.”

Other professors also delivered lists of qualities they would like to see in Baylor’s next president. Dr. Doug Matthews, associate professor of psychology and neuroscience, stressed the importance of the challenge of integrating faith and learning at Baylor. “I would encourage you to look for someone who recognizes that it’s a challenge and not someone who comes to you with a five-point plan,” he said. Matthews also said the president should have both a global and local focus and should be someone who “can value the contributions both of those who are more research active and those who are more teaching active.” The conflict between teaching and research was a recurring theme at the session, as several speakers noted the need to value teaching even as Baylor pursues a research agenda for faculty.

Fourth on Matthews’s list was for the regents to find “an individual who really captures what it means to be a scholar and what it means to be a teacher,” he said. “I strongly suggest you find a president who has scholarly credentials to command the respect of the faculty, but also has the credentials of education that can command respect from faculty and students.”

When economics chair and international business professor Dr. Steve Gardner touched on the topic of faith and learning, he hit on another familiar theme. After describing three different models for faith and learning, Gardner said the important point was that “a president needs to know there’s not any one model of faith and learning that all Baylor faculty members are adhering to.” He said that on this and other issues, the qualities needed in a president could be summed up in one word: “breadth.” A president needs intellectual breadth, a knowledge and appreciation of a wide range of disciplines and teaching methods, and a global perspective, he said.

Speakers also discussed the type of leadership a president ought to have, with Dr. Barry Harvey, professor of theology in the Great Texts program, identifying two “basic conceptions” about what a president is. “Do we need a leader who is a good manager?” he asked. “Or do we want a manager that does some leadership functions?” Harvey said leadership is essential. “A good leader will listen and take all perspectives,” he said. “A good leader will have as capacious a view as possible. At the same time, a good leader will know that a good university has to set a direction, a tone, and I hope it’s one that continues to debate before councils such as yours what it means to integrate faith and learning.”

Dr. Stan Madden, professor of marketing, also had some comments about leadership style. He said that when he was a Baylor vice president, a regent suggested, “Let’s just tell the faculty what to do and to sit down and shut up.” But Madden said, “I tried to explain that we’re a little bit like the situation that the pope found himself in when he hired Michelangelo to paint the Sistine Chapel. He was going to be a lot of trouble. He could have hired somebody to paint it green and been through with it in two days, but would we remember much about that? We bring people here to have ideas, and those ideas are almost always a lot of trouble.”

Associate professor of economics Dr. Chuck North also commented on the creative nature of a university, saying it should be managed like a high-tech firm. “The answer is not that there is a president who decrees from on high what will happen,” he said. “The answer is that you have all these really weird people running around making weird stuff, and they come with a whole lot of terrible ideas, but every one in a hundred or so is brilliant, and that’s how you create new things.”

Several attendees also spoke about Baylor’s Baptist heritage. Dr. Doug Weaver, assistant professor of religion, said that, as a Baptist historian, he wants to see Baylor embrace its denominational identity. “A Christian university in the Baptist tradition does not have to be confining,” he said.

Weaver also noted his experience at two other Christian universities where one downfall did in two presidents. In both cases, he said, it was a failure to communicate well that caused a president to be fired or asked to resign. “My main message, based on my experience, is that communication is extremely important, and we need someone who will work together with all constituencies,” he said. “That doesn’t mean always agreeing with all constituencies, but it does mean being willing to work with all.”Meg Cullar


April 29 / Baylor staff listening session

Presidential Search Committee members present: Armes, Bailey, Getterman, and Peña
Presidential Search Advisory Committee members present: Funai and Hall

During an afternoon session in the Baylor Sciences Building on April 29 that lasted more than an hour, general staff members of Baylor University had their chance to be heard by the Presidential Search Committee and Presidential Search Advisory Committee. Between thirty-five and forty people attended, with fifteen of them taking a turn at the microphone.

Welcomed by Angela Funai, chair of Baylor’s Staff Council, staffers were encouraged to “make the most of this opportunity to make our opinions heard.” She introduced search committee chair Joe Armes, who noted that Baylor’s approximately twelve hundred staff members “really make the university run” and recognized that many staff members see their work as a calling.

Jeff Brown ’00, a writer in marketing and communications, was an example. “I’m here because I believe in the mission of Baylor,” Brown said, “and I think you have an incredibly high percentage who are here for the same reason. I wonder if there are any other universities of this size who have employees who are so united in a mission—the idea of high academics, high Christian values, Christian leadership, Christian service, and excelling at such a level.”

Of the fifteen staffers who addressed the panel, almost all were from departments that directly relate to the public, including university development, recruitment, admissions, and employees of Mayborn Museum and Armstrong Browning Library.

Amber Adamson ’04, assistant director of foundation and corporate relationships, said, “We need a president who can represent the university well, plain and simple—a good speaker, good communicator, good listener. We need someone whom we can be proud to send out and represent us all across the country.”

Eric Abercrombie ’96, MIJ ’98, director of development, seconded her comments, adding, “In visiting with donors, and with faculty and staff, I feel like this is our last shot at this, if we’re going to try and go somewhere with this great university. This person needs to have a good concept of what public relations is all about—how to interact with the community, to be a partner with the Waco community.”

While most remarks were general, some questions got specific. Patricia Pack, operations manager at Mayborn Museum and vice chair of the Staff Council, asked Armes to respond to a rumor circulating that the regents “have already made up their mind and have somebody in place.”

Armes replied, “We’re waiting to hear from the constituents, to benefit from the wisdom we hear and all the information we can get together, and then take the next step. It would be disingenuous of us to create a profile, put together all the specs, and advertise the job before we have a chance to hear from the listening sessions that we’ve set up for that purpose. So, no decision has been made. Period.”

A number of staff speakers commended interim president Dr. David Garland. Among them was Jessica King Gereghty, who oversees thirteen counselors as associate director of admission services. She said Garland’s willingness to support and recognize the work they were doing has been invaluable to her staff.

Feelings were mixed when asked how important it would be for a new president to have a pre-existing relationship to Baylor. While some thought it would be helpful, most agreed that it wasn’t essential. What was not negotiable was the spirit the new president would bring to the job. Jeff Wallace ’87, JD ’91, a director in the Office of Investments, said the most important thing is “commonality of mission and purpose to what Baylor is about.”

Wesley Longacre ’04, an admissions counselor, said, “I’m very connected to the university and have been for a long time. I’ve never seen, as far as I can remember, what a peaceful administrative environment at Baylor is or could be.” Longacre believed the most important presidential characteristics were servant leadership and humility, and he described “someone who’s not afraid to get his hands dirty, someone who is leading and willing to listen and take input, not afraid to be wrong and take advice in certain areas.”

Advisory committee chair Ken Hall asked employees, “How critical is it that this person have knowledge from the Baptist perspective as it is uniquely lived out in the Baylor world?”

Joann Sharkey ’01, MDiv ’04, assistant director of student services at Truett Seminary, responded, “Baylor’s commitment to Baptist heritage and the Christian life is something that does distinguish it from other schools that have strived to maintain academic excellence but moved away from their Christian heritage.” She noted, “It would only serve our purpose better to maintain that Christian integrity with education.”

However, Dana Lee Haines ’85, MA ’90, EdD ’02, associate director of student activities, said she believed a particular denominational affiliation was not critical, noting, “The key is how much can we see in that candidate their real faith in God and how they live that out—what service they’re actually doing at their particular institution, what kind of transformation they are having in the lives of those they work with.”

Finally, Armes acknowledged that the search committee’s task would involve recruitment of candidates as well as selection, and he asked for suggestions in how to present Baylor and Waco.

Ella Smith, an administrative associate in the Office of University Development, said, “It doesn’t have to be a hard sell if we don’t emphasize the struggles we’ve had in the past, but rather look where we’re going forward. I think Dr. Garland is a great example of what a great university we can be when there’s openness, communication, a president who’s been involved, and the staff and faculty opening up to this interim president. I think it’s attainable, that goal of being a Christian university that impacts the world and the community.”Judy Henderson Prather


May 5 / Houston-area alumni listening session

Presidential Search Committee members present: Armes, Brooks, Dagnel, Peña, and Reimers
Presidential Search Advisory Committee members present: Hall, Phillips, and Pullin

After four open listening sessions on campus with various groups, the Presidential Search and Advisory Committees went on the road to hold the first of the listening sessions designed to solicit input from Baylor alumni and friends around the state.

First stop: Houston. Starting at 7 p.m. on May 5, committee members met with a group of more than twenty alumni and Baylor friends at Tallowood Baptist Church in Houston, where Baylor regent Dr. Duane Brooks serves as pastor.

Asked what qualities Baylor’s next president should have, several attendees ventured initial replies. John W. Rogers ’69 emphasized the need for a president who could unite the Baylor family. “It’s important that the president be able to relate to everyone. That’s been a problem in the past, with the Faculty Senate passing a vote of no confidence in the president. They can’t seem to get on the same page. The board seems to be going one way and the faculty another and students another, and we haven’t been able to unite them.”

Another attendee said, “I’m a 1975 graduate, and we had some good professors and leaders and we had some, I think, rather liberal leaders in some respects. I liked [former Baylor president Robert] Sloan and his conservative theology, and I’m just hoping that you’ll do something along those lines theologically.”

A theme that recurred at various points during the ninety-minute discussion was the importance of doing whatever is necessary to find the right leader for Baylor—someone who would build consensus and stay in the position for some time. “My priority is to get the right person,” David Iler ’84, JD ’85, said. “There doesn’t seem any reason to rush.”

“We’ve got to get it right this time,” said James K. “Chip” Hubbard ’73, immediate past president of the Baylor “B” Association. “With our last president, Baylor suffered too much of a bruise in Texas and nationally. Take the time that it takes to get it right. I’d encourage regents to get the right person in place and let him do the job and not micromanage the president.”

Several former Baylor regents were present at the meeting, including former regent chair Fred Cameron ’60, JD ’62; Jaclanel Moore McFarland ’74, JD ’77; and Emily George Tinsley ’61, who is president-elect of the Baylor Alumni Association.

“Jaclanel and I have been on a search committee before,” Tinsley told committee members. “We’ve been in your shoes. You have the opportunity to do the hardest and most valuable job you’ll ever do for Baylor University. I hope and pray you’ll take your time and do your homework to find God’s person for that office. Right now, Baylor is very much at a crossroads with its leadership and governance, and you’ve got to move forward.”

McFarland said that because many Baylor alumni and faculty are concerned about how expensive it has become to attend Baylor, it’s important for the board to hire “a servant leader,” someone who is not seeking the job in order to get a big salary, but to serve others and set an example of stewardship. “I hope you’ll look at how candidates live, how they spend money, and who they give money to,” she said.

Advisory committee chair Ken Hall asked the audience to describe the importance of Baylor’s president being a Baptist. “It’s critically important for anyone in a leadership role to have a strong Christian commitment that’s evident in every area of their life,” Tinsley said. “But we have to make sure we don’t get swept up in it and make the university into a church.”

Greg Pratt ’85 noted, “Students who come to Baylor need to know we’re a Christian university. We need students being taught ethics. But students from any faith should feel comfortable.”

Asked by search committee chair Joe Armes whether or not a previous connection to Baylor was an important quality for Baylor’s president to have, several attendees said that it would be helpful but wasn’t required.

“Baylor is a university with a lot of tradition,” Susan Spears Pratt ’85 said. “If the person is a Baylor alum, he’s going to understand that tradition. But it doesn’t have to be a Baylor alum. Someone who understands and encourages that tradition will be good.”

After a lull in the dialogue, Greg Pratt asked the panel, “What will you say to a candidate who asks, ‘What in the world’s been going on here, with people not getting along with other people?’”

In response, Armes said the search committee would be prepared to deal with that question. He then asked the audience members, “What should we be telling candidates about Baylor?”

“We’ve had a lot of turmoil, but the students have remained outstanding,” Bill Mearse ’78, MBA ’79, said. “We need to understand our selling points. One is our Baptist heritage and our values. You can look around the world today and see the need for values. Alumni have a strong loyalty to the university. If a candidate can see that, then he or she will recognize the value it has.”

Another attendee said, “The real thing for Baylor is that one-on-one relationship between a student and the professor. That’s the gold standard at Baylor.”

Armes told the group that a timeline for hiring Baylor’s fourteenth president had not been established. He said that after finalizing a profile for the next president, which will draw upon the input from the listening sessions, the search committees will place ads in a variety of publications.

He said the consultant hired to assist with the search, Jerry Baker of Baker and Associates in Atlanta, told the committees they should expect to receive nominations for candidates for thirty to sixty days afterward and then they would begin reviewing the nominations during the fall. Armes added that the search committees will also proactively seek out potential candidates.

“We are all very comfortable with David Garland and feel no need to rush,” Armes said, referring to Baylor’s interim president.

Giving voice to an opinion widely shared at the listening session, Iler told the search committee members, “If you think you’ve got the right person, don’t take no for an answer.”Todd Copeland


May 7 / San Antonio-area alumni listening session

Presidential Search Committee members present: Armes and Peña
Presidential Search Advisory Committee members present: Hall and Phillips

Civil, forthright, honest. Those are some of the ways participants described the listening session held May 7 at Shearer Hills Baptist Church with members of the Presidential Search and Advisory Committees and San Antonio-area alumni.

Unlike the more formally structured listening sessions held on campus for staff, students, and faculty—where committee members asked questions, listened, and rarely responded—this meeting was more like a conversation around the dinner table.

One of the first topics addressed was the timing of the search. George Cowden ’76, JD ’78, a San Antonio attorney and past president of the alumni association, expressed appreciation to the committee for not being in a hurry. Cowden said, “I think that the process is being watched with a lot of expectation, and some cynicism, by the Baylor family. I hope the committee will search for the right person, no matter how long it takes.”

Search committee chair Joe Armes acknowledged there is a tension between taking whatever time it takes to get the right person and what he called “momentum issues with respect to interims.”

Armes added, “I think the hardest part of this job may be synthesizing what we’ve heard in these various listening meetings and trying to glean what are themes that we’re hearing, then reducing that to a set of parameters or profile.”

According to comments from the San Antonio alumni, the committee should look for someone who puts Baylor’s institutional interest before any personal agenda. Baylor’s next president should be an open, effective communicator with leadership and vision, respect for academic excellence, appreciation for teaching and research, and strong convictions but a loving attitude. He or she should also have an ability to relate to Baptist life and bridge the gap between parts of the family who aren’t getting along well.

Advisory committee member Tom Phillips noted, “Academics is a tough job. The average tenure of university presidents is getting briefer around the nation, and this is not one of the easier jobs even among those jobs because there have been some pretty high bars set in the past. This school rightfully regards itself as the flagship Baptist university in the world and therefore with something of a unique mission.”

Randy Patterson ’74, JD ’75, added some historical perspective to the conversation, telling the group that Baylor’s president during the Civil War took night trains because he couldn’t afford hotels, watched who won in the gambling halls and later hit them up for donations, and was known to pull coins out of spittoons. “You talk about a tough job,” Patterson said. “That was a tough job, but we made it. This is a tough job here, but I think the Lord will guide us through.”

Seth Witcher ’72, BA ’74, whose family members include Baylor students during the Civil War, affirmed the past and acknowledged the high standards set by previous presidents. “But Baylor’s going to change, by nature of its vision,” he said. “Somehow this individual is going to have to develop some common ground.”

When advisory committee chair Ken Hall asked the group to define what they thought “Baptist” involves, Armes joked, “Where you have two Baptists in a room, you’ll have three opinions.” Hall acknowledged that such a definition is made even harder in light of the changes and denominational challenges Baptists have undergone in recent years.

Sylvia Hutcherson Maddox ’69 said, “When I think of Baptist, I think of these things—respect and freedom and an emphasis on mission and service.” She added, “You’ll have to emphasize the mission, not the denomination, so it becomes not a name, but a calling. People want to work at a place that is making a difference.”

For some participants, the most significant component of this session was that regents and Baylor Alumni Association leadership were engaged in direct conversation. Babs Baugh, Class of ’64 and alumni association president in 2006, asked Armes, “Do you think this sort of conversation will cause more conversation as time goes by, even after we get a president, between the people and the board?”

Armes replied, “I don’t want to predict, but I certainly want to encourage it. Whether it’s the passion that we hear from a member of the Baylor family who talks about the multi-generation experience it has been, or folks who tell you a story about Baylor’s past that I’ve never heard before, it’s helpful to hear. We probably have more in common than we have differences. We’ve certainly heard through this process with faculty, students, staff, Waco community members, and now alumni that Baylor is a very special place. And we all have valuable input, so I would certainly encourage it.”

Jane Keath Witcher ’71, EdD ’03, seemed to summarize the feelings of the group when she said, “We want somebody who doesn’t have a personal, political, or religious agenda, whose only agenda is to make Baylor the best it can be.”

Cowden recommended using Baylor’s faculty as the primary guiding hand in creating the profile for and selecting Baylor’s next president. “Those are men and women who put Baylor’s interests before their own,” he said. “I would give more weight to what the faculty and academicians say. If they are confident in this person’s ability, then they will rally around them. So if what you’re listening for is a standard by which to make your decisions, I say listen to the academicians at Baylor who have Baylor’s best interest at heart.”Judy Henderson Prather


May 19 / Fort Worth-area alumni listening session

Presidential Search Committee members present: Armes, Dagnel, and Elliston
Presidential Search Advisory Committee members present: Hall and Pullin

A feisty crowd of more than thirty Fort Worth alumni delivered a barrage of opinions, criticisms, and encouragements at the listening session held at the Fort Worth Club on May 19.

Alumni offered opinions and advice about issues ranging from the organization of the university’s development staff to the importance of the teaching tradition at Baylor and the make-up of the search committees.

Addressing an issue that came up at nearly every meeting, Daralynn Deardorff ’87 told regents that, since they had announced they were still early in the selection process, it was not too late to make a change and allow faculty, student, staff, and alumni members to have a voting role. “I really appreciate having a voice and a seat at the table; that’s wonderful,” she said. “Now let’s put some teeth to it.”

Advisory committee members said their role has been significant. “I think our voices are being heard and valued,” said committee member Randy Pullin. “Although I understand the voting issue, based on the numbers we would get out-voted anyway. But I think what we have really is influence, and that is very valuable.”

Another sentiment expressed often in the listening sessions was voiced by Harriett Briscoe Harral ’66, MA ’67. “I think it is of extreme import for the new president to have the ability to truly build a team,” she said. “There’s a need for good teamwork between the president and the regents, but beyond that the Baylor family needs to be part of that team: faculty, students, and alumni.” She said the new president needs to “work in a very transparent way, in a very collaborative way, in a very inclusive way.”

The Fort Worth crowd was not shy about naming names. In fact, the first speaker, Arnold Martin ’61, said that the regents—”whom I trust explicitly”—should select someone with the character of former Baylor president Robert Sloan. “I still have my button that says, ‘I support the regents and Dr. Sloan.’ I should have worn it today,” he said. “I don’t know anybody that has more character than Robert. He lacked some other leadership skills, and we haven’t found a person that has all of them.”

Other alumni stepped up to the plate, offering tales of their favorite president, with several endorsements of former presidents Abner McCall and Herbert H. Reynolds—and even one for W. R. White. Jim Price ’54 asked, “Would it be out of the realm of possibility to find a candidate with the wisdom and foresight of Abner McCall and the psychological acumen and warm heart of Herb Reynolds?”

Betty Gilbreath Price ’59 asked the regent panel if they might select or eliminate certain candidates if they considered them to be “political.” She said, “Such a person might be [former Baylor interim president] Bill Underwood, president of Mercer University.” She also asked the regents if they would be willing to “remove the name of the Amarillo pastor [and 2008-09 Baylor regent chair] Howie Batson from the list of potential candidates as an act of good faith to relieve anxiety among the academic scholars and donors of the university.” Price handed her written questions to the regents, but said she realized it was a “listening” session and she didn’t expect answers to be given.

Max Bennett ’60, JD ’62, delivered a lengthy comment covering a variety of topics ranging from the openness of the 1970s-era Board of Trustees to the designation of “A” and “B” faculty several years ago that indicated whether a professor was focused on teaching or research. Bennett said a conversation with a retired faculty member during the Sloan administration had alerted him to numerous problems on campus. “I am not a fan of the last two [permanent] presidents,” he said. “I think the board and some members who are still on the board made a bad judgment on those selections. I hope this process is open and is what it appears to be. And I hope Baylor will proceed to attempt to regain some of its prior standing.”

Fred Weekley ’62, LLB ’63, of Arlington, suggested that the regents change the bylaws to allow a non-Baptist to be president, noting that Notre Dame only required a certain percentage of its regents be Catholic.

But Christi Harman Stinson ’71 said that during the middle of a search process was not the right time to change the university’s bylaws. “If those governing documents need to be changed, find a leader who knows how to work through that,” she said. “I want our next president to understand governance, and that involves transparency.” She suggested to the crowd and the panel, “If you want to know about the governance of Baylor University, pull out their bylaws, and if they are not posted [on the website] today, they need to be posted tomorrow.”

Paul Harral ’66 advised regents to guard against a president with fundamentalist leanings. “I am very concerned about the religious drift in Baylor in the past,” he said. “Fundamentalism is not a good thing, and that wave has passed. I would like to see a president who is evangelical, but not fundamentalist. If we go fundamentalist again, you lose me. Last time I got over it, but I won’t do it again.”

Nancy Renfro Miller ’65 said that she doesn’t identify with any particular “camp” associated with previous controversies. “I don’t know what the camps are, but I am in the camp of Baylor alumni,” she said. “It didn’t occur to me that I would be pleased by everything and everybody, but it did occur that I would always be proud of Baylor.” Miller said she believes that Baylor alumni have a unique devotion to their school and that often their loyalty is tied to a particular person. “I do know that the faculty should be highly respected and be part of the process, because that’s what made Baylor a great place to come to school,” she said.Meg Cullar


May 19 / Dallas-area alumni listening session Presidential Search Committee members present: Armes, Dagnel, Elliston, and Stone

Presidential Search Advisory Committee members present: Hall and Pullin

About twenty-five alumni gathered on the evening of May 19 at Addison’s InterContinental Hotel to discuss the qualities they believed would make the best president for Baylor. The meeting began at 7:30 and lasted about an hour.

Those in the crowd needed encouragement to begin expressing their opinions. Eventually, after the prompting of regents, Os Chrisman ’57, JD ’59, shared a few thoughts, specifically urging the committees to consider qualified women for the job. “I would underscore professional qualification as the top priority at this point,” said Chrisman, who had served on an earlier Baylor presidential search committee. “Baylor is a huge business in a very competitive field, but this is also like a church in that no person can come into a divided group and be successful. We are looking to you; we have to have unity to make it happen. We are counting on you to bring the kind of person to Baylor University that would lead us to where the good Lord would have us to go.”

John Chiles ’50, JD ’52, said, “We are looking for a man or woman of all seasons, and number one on my list is a person of integrity.” Chiles also said the regents should look for a person of broad background with “serious administrative experience.”

Curby Ligon ’66, JD ’68, broached a new topic that drew response from others when he said that experience in fundraising is very important for Baylor’s next leader. Chiles agreed with him, saying, “The president is essential to raising money; there is no substitute for a chief executive in raising money. Baylor is as deserving as any other school, but we have fallen behind in our ability to raise big amounts of money.”

Ligon also noted that the president needs to be a person of integrity, and Chiles said the leader must have an impeccable reputation in order to accomplish the task of fundraising. Renee Alford Sessions ’76, MA ’77, agreed, noting, “Don’t be so concerned about getting someone who can fundraise, because I’ve had three sons at Baylor, and I will tell you that the parents want to see leadership. And when there is leadership, they do not mind opening their pockets and supporting. I believe Baylor can come back and once again experience a pouring forth of love as well as money. We’ve missed that in the past because of weak leadership.”

Gwin Morris ’63, a fundraiser for Baylor from 1986 to 1999, said, “Leadership and vision are the most critical aspects of a chief executive of an institution like Baylor.”

Search committee member Dary Stone asked the crowd what they thought about a “non-traditional” candidate for the job, such as a corporate leader as opposed to an academician with a PhD. He noted leaders at Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and the University of North Carolina as examples. “These gentlemen didn’t come from academia, but had demonstrated leadership before they came to that job and were gangbusters at raising money and managing people,” he said. “I don’t want to put words in your mouths, so is that something that you are open to?”

While some alumni responded positively, Chrisman pointed out, “I would remind you that some of the non-traditional have been very successful, yet some have been very unsuccessful.” He pointed to Harvard as an example. There, Lawrence Summers, a former Treasury secretary, had a tumultuous tenure as president from 2001-06 and eventually resigned after a no-confidence vote by faculty. Regarding the need for a terminal degree, Chrisman said, “If we are striving to be one of the top-tier universities, then that has to be considered. I would say that if you get a tremendous corporate executive, it would have to be squared with the idea that it could damage our reputation in the academic world.”

Rhonda Reynolds Winslett BA/MBA ’83, JD ’86, the daughter of former Baylor president Dr. Herbert Reynolds, said that she hopes the search committee would reach out to faculty on this issue. “I hope those of you who went to Baylor would contact your former professors—teaching or retired—and get insight from them in their experience on what makes effective leadership,” she said. “The students’ experience is day-in and day-out with the faculty, so I hope you will give great weight and great credence to what the faculty has to say. I couldn’t imagine having a university president without a terminal degree. If we are pushing for the upper level as a university, we need a president with a doctorate.” She also pointed out that former Texas A&M president Robert Gates, who had been head of the CIA, also held a doctoral degree.

Shelba Shelton Jones ’76 came prepared with a list of qualities the committee should be seeking. “The first thing is a strong administrative and leadership experience,” she said. “The second thing is a distinguished academic, because I do think that is important. And then a committed Christian. I would love for it to be a Baylor person, but if not, someone who can understand Baylor and who understands the history and traditions. We need someone who is a servant leader, with integrity, someone who is respectful to people and humble. Someone like that could work with the faculty, the alumni, the community, and the students.”Meg Cullar


May 21 / Waco-area alumni listening session

Presidential Search Committee members present: Armes, Bailey, Cunningham, Dagnel, Getterman, and Peña
Presidential Search Advisory Committee members present: Hall, Phillips, Pullin, and Robinson

The Presidential Search and Advisory Committees wrapped up their listening sessions with Baylor alumni around the state when they gathered at 7:00 p.m. on Thursday, May 21, on the fifth floor of Cashion Academic Center at Baylor. Meeting with about forty alumni and friends of Baylor from the Waco area, the members of the two committees heard a range of candid, heartfelt input over the course of an hour and a half.

The first of more than a dozen alumni to speak was Hornor Shelton ’48, JD ’49, who expressed his desire for Baylor to remain prominently identified with the Baptist denomination and to reduce the new emphasis on research among faculty in order to keep tuition costs down. “I would like to see us do something about bringing tuition down,” he said. “The average Baylor person cannot send their child to Baylor.”

Shelton also suggested scrapping Baylor 2012, the university’s ten-year vision, and ceasing to be concerned about how the university ranks against other institutions of higher learning. “I think we ought to do away with 2012,” he said. “I think that has been a divisive matter, and it would be best to put it aside. I think we also ought to forget about being a tier-one school. We’re not going to be in the top fifty. We don’t have the money to do it.”

Elizabeth Brient Smith, MBA ’85, emphasized the potential for collaboration between Baylor and Waco with regard to research and recommended that Baylor seek a president with experience in working with a local community in the area of technology commercialization. “I believe Baylor has the potential to spin off many businesses that could help our local economy,” she said. “I would hope that, as you’re looking at candidates, you will keep in mind that some presidents have more experience than others in the type of collaboration with communities and economic development.”

David Lacy ’79, president of the Baylor Alumni Association for 2009, echoed Smith’s comments in saying that Baylor’s next president should be someone who works with community organizations and encourages Baylor employees to do the same. “Waco is blessed to have a university like Baylor in it,” Lacy said. “If the CEO of the university encourages people to get involved in activities all over the city, it makes an immense difference to lead by example.”

Other comments by alumni emphasized the need for a person of integrity and executive experience to occupy the president’s office. “I think we need to look for a man of the caliber of Pat Neff, Abner McCall, or Herbert Reynolds, with a background other than in Bible training,” said Cecil Singletary ’49.

“I think we would all agree that person needs to be a committed Christian, needs to have strong academic credentials, and needs to have experience in university governance,” said Kent Reynolds ’75, MBA ’76, son of former Baylor president Dr. Herbert Reynolds. “But whoever that person is, I hope you’ll give him or her the flexibility to come into Baylor and look into Baylor’s strengths and weaknesses, look at Baylor’s resources, and begin to craft a new vision. I think good things have come out of [Baylor] 2012 and some not so good things—probably the biggest would be the divisiveness.”

Search committee chair Joe Armes asked the gathering how important they thought it was for a presidential candidate to have a prior relationship with Baylor, or at least some knowledge of Baylor’s history, traditions, and uniqueness.

“If we can get a president who has real deep Baylor connections—someone who knows Baylor, knows what it’s about, knows something about its traditions, loves Baylor the way we do—I think that would be a real plus,” said Joe Baxter ’49.

Ashley Bean Thornton ’83 said Baylor’s next president should be someone who values students’ religious diversity and the university’s atmosphere of openness and inquiry. “Baylor would not be Baylor without that spirit of being able to ask whatever question you wanted to ask, specifically about your faith,” she said. “To have people who take that seriously and help you explore it and think through it, that to me is a really important part to not just who we pick as president, but what we identify as our identity going forward.”

A theme that ran through the comments of several alumni was the need for a leader who could bring people together in support of Baylor’s mission and help end the recent period of divisiveness that has troubled the Baylor family.

“The definition of leadership is a person who has people following him or her that want to follow him or her,” Lacy said. “We’re all going to want to follow that person initially, but I think it’s going to be more likely that everyone is still following at some point in time in the future if that person takes an active role in trying to build bridges, to communicate, and to listen to the various and sundry different constituencies that are on campus.”

Cullen Smith ’48, JD ’50, noted that the process of consensus-building needed to include actions taken by Baylor’s Board of Regents. “There’s one thing that’s bothered me for the past few years, and it is this friction that has existed, or appeared to exist, between the Board of Regents and the alumni [association]. I’ve been told that the board would not meet with the alumni [association]. Alumni love Baylor, and you love Baylor, and Baylor will do better in the selection of a president if we can meet and talk and not be afraid of each other. We want Baylor to be as highly ranked as possible. But if you study the rankings system, you will see that the support of the alumni is a critical issue in a high ranking.”

Dr. Jim Vardaman ’51 said the lack of faculty, student, and alumni representatives on the search committee reflects the broader sense of marginalization these groups have felt in recent years and argued that steps taken to remedy that exclusion would help build the desired consensus.

“Power resides in you, those of you who are members of the board,” Vardaman said, addressing the regents on the search committee. “The members of the advisory committee can only advise. I wish you’d consider bringing aboard two faculty members. I’d like to see the same thing happen for the student body. Nobody loves Baylor more than most of the active alumni I know. They love every brick of the university. I know that you love every brick, too. I’m not for a minute trying to deny that. I am saying, though, that you need to share [power] if you are going to move toward tier-one status.”

The meeting ended with a discussion prompted by a question from advisory committee chair Ken Hall. “Baylor is the crown jewel of what it means to be Baptist, but it is getting more difficult in the environment we live in to define that,” he said. “What is it that makes Baylor distinctive in the Baptist cause? What do you think we need in a leader who holds that banner high?”

Reynolds was the first to respond, saying, “It’s important for that person to truly embrace the traditional Baptist distinctives that we have embraced for years: the priesthood of the believer, soul freedom, the autonomy of the local church, and the separation of church and state. The key is that it would be a person who would embrace those Baptist distinctives that we’ve held dear for years, whether he calls himself a Texas Baptist or a Cooperative Baptist.”

Dave Borders ’50 said, “I would rather that we steer clear of the fundamentalists in regards to looking at a person to be president of Baylor University. I would rather that the person be a Baptist, but I do encourage you to be careful about the kind of Baptist as you look for the presidency.”

Before the meeting ended with a prayer led by search committee member Ramiro Peña, advisory committee member Tom Phillips offered a comment: “Thank you so much for coming tonight and sharing your views with us. The comments we’ve heard around the state and at our various stops around here at the university will be very helpful to both these groups as we try to form a profile and send a message to the world about what kind of special place Baylor is. This is a very important time for the school. We appreciate your prayers and your help in this process.”Todd Copeland

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