I have just read the comments by Jack Loftis, Paul Powell, and Bill Hillis regarding the proposal made by the Baylor administration and Board of Regents for the Baylor Alumni Association to terminate its independent 501(c)(3) status and fold into the administration. I admire all three of these Baylor servants greatly, and appreciate their different points of view on this most important issue.
Jack Loftis hit the nail on the head as far as answering the question, "Why is this happening?" Apparently, the current administration and Board of Regents is so insecure in their efforts to acquire and maintain absolute control of the Baylor universe that they cannot tolerate the possibility of differing views on matters affecting the Baylor family. Lack of editorial control of the Baylor Line magazine is central to that perceived insecurity.
I served as chair of the Board of Regents from 1995 through 1997. The crisis de jour at that time was over the relationship between Baylor University and the Baylor Health Care System in Dallas. With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, I realize that many mistakes were made during that upheaval—most of which can be laid at my feet. Several issues of the Baylor Line reported on these missteps in judgment, much to my chagrin at the time. I now feel that the Line's objective reporting to the Baylor family did as much as anything else to resolve those issues in a manner that allowed both institutions to survive and thrive—independently.
I can assure you that, if the editorial content of the Baylor Line had been controlled by the administration at that time, the voice of objectivity and reason would have been absent from discussion within the Baylor family.
Paul Powell and Bill Hillis emphasize the uniqueness of Baylor. I cannot, for the life of me, understand the rationale behind the argument made by the administration and Board of Regents that the independence of the Baylor Alumni Association should be terminated because it is "unique" (although not completely so, as shown by Jeff Kilgore). I would greatly appreciate it if the administration and regents would identify the institution(s) to which Baylor should conform. If conformity to other institutions is the goal of this group of governors, then I greatly fear for the future of Baylor. Why would any family sacrifice tens of thousands of dollars to send their child to a school in Waco, Texas, if the school’s ultimate goal is to conform to another institution?
The uniqueness of Baylor University should be celebrated, not eliminated. The independence of the Baylor Alumni Association is a strength to be promoted, rather than a nonconformity to be condemned. Perceived insecurity should be replaced by embracing Baylor's distinctive nature and role in educating future leaders of our state, nation, and world. Randy Fields ’70, MBA ’71, JD ‘77
San Antonio
Baylor University President David
Garland recently appeared before a meeting of the Student Senate where he was
quoted as saying the Baylor Alumni Association has given Baylor a black eye.
Using that same logic, recent decisions by the university’s administration and
board of regents—the SAT scandal, the tenure debacle and revolving-door
presidencies—have given Baylor bruised shins, fever and a stroke.
In 2008, at the request of Baylor’s
regents, an independent consulting group performed a feasibility assessment of
Vision 2012’s Imperative XII—specifically, achieving a $2 billion endowment.
The group concluded Baylor had lost $400 million in donations because of
perceptions of in-fighting.
In a more recent study, U.S.
News & World Report disclosed that alumni giving at Baylor was down
from 29 percent in 2006 to 18 percent.
When you look at these findings,
it’s tempting to hang them around the neck of the Baylor Alumni Association, to
say that the poor fundraising can be attributed to a black eye caused by the
independent BAA. To do so, however, is to misdiagnose what has caused these
reports.
Since 2003, regents have continued
to marginalize the alumni association while cautioning Baylor Student
Government and Faculty Senate members from coming to the BAA’s defense. Baylor’s
regents and administration want us to look forward mostly because they’re
worried by what we might conclude when we look to the past.
In light of the university’s
recent actions towards the BAA, it’s quite remarkable what the alumni
association has been able to accomplish, given the near-death blow administered
by then-President Robert Sloan’s administration. In 2002, under Sloan’s
direction, Baylor hired out from under the BAA many of the alumni association’s
staff. Those employees took with them the master plan for what has now become
the Baylor Network. The mere fact that the BAA is still alive—and performing
alumni services—is a testament to our alumni and the care they exercise for
their beloved alma mater.
Since 2002, the BAA has continued
to progress, mostly because Baylor students and alumni have much at stake in
the university’s future. Baylor’s public relations office cannot be relied upon
to deliver a full picture of campus issues, something that the BAA can do through
the editorial independence of its magazine, The Baylor Line.
In recent years, the BAA has shed
light on many controversial issues surrounding Baylor, including the
presidential search, faculty/tenure issues, then-President John Lilley’s
attempt to phase out the interlocking BU, the SAT scholarship scandal, the
post-election rope-swing incident from last fall and many other stories that
have failed to grace the pages of Baylor Magazine.
The BAA objectively reports on
issues critical to our university. In recent years, the negative light cast
upon Baylor has originated solely from decisions made within Pat Neff Hall.
The BAA’s independence is special.
So is Baylor. It is the only higher education institution of its kind, and what
makes Baylor unique is its calling. Baylor is called to be in the world but not
of the world. We are one of the few institutions of Christian higher education
to command great respect nationwide.
The regents have built their case
for the BAA takeover on “best practices,” claiming Baylor’s alumni association
is like none other in higher education. But no one else is quite like Baylor.
Only Baylor walks such a thin line between secular and faith, striving to be a
place of uncompromised academic excellence while retaining its Christian
identity.
Baylor’s core values have
traditionally stood on the freedom of thought. An internal alumni network would
not provide the appropriate forums or freedoms to express challenging questions
of university leadership. It takes the entire Baylor Lineto preserve
what makes Baylor so special.
Quite simply, we have too much at
stake. We need voices to continue Baylor’s special calling. And we need an
editorially independent alumni association.
Allan Marshall '07
Waco
I strongly support a free and independent alumni association. I have worked with alumni associations at other universities. In each case, they have become associated almost exclusively with fundraising. Consequently, alums have little interest in the alumni association; they do not sense that it really provides them any direct benefit other than as a vehicle for giving money. Credibility is critically important; an independent association allows that credibility and therefore a stronger voice for Baylor. Dr. Harriet Briscoe Harral '66, MA '67
Fort Worth
I am proud to be a life member of BAA and have been very concerned about the relationship between the university leadership and the BAA since Baylor began to publish its own alumni magazine. If you add to that what some have called the "questionable" new Board of Regents process and all the presidential controversies and firings in the last few years, I have become very frightened that Baylor may become controlled by the few instead of being lead by a president, Board of Regents, faculty, and supportive alumni association that all have their own voice and work together to maintain our status as an outstanding academic university.
I perceive this move by the Board of Regents as a proposal to rein in any independent voice communicating about the university. To my knowledge, however, the BAA has always been extremely supportive of the university and has never had any intent to harm it or its leadership. This proposal, therefore, makes me ask the question, “Why would the university want to silence the voice of an independent, supportive alumni association?” Surely if it were mainly for efficiency reasons, as they suggest, that could be worked out short of dissolving the BAA and its constitution!
As I look at this proposal, I am fearfully reminded of the changes that have come to the Southern Baptist Convention and all the havoc that has been wreaked there in the name of "controlling our Baptist voice." I look at all the destruction this has caused to lives, churches, and our Baptist missionaries and mission fields and see this as a possible move by these same types of people and as a proposal that might have the same results.
With these thoughts in mind, I believe the BAA should remain independent and resist any proposal to rein in its current independent, operational position. Dr. Sammie Wester '61
Dallas
Let’s get the disclaimers out of the way at the beginning. I’m an officer of the Baylor Alumni Association. I’m not from Waco or even Texas. I’m not a prominent business owner. I live on the East Coast. I don’t come from an established Baylor family, and since I don’t have any children of my own I couldn’t send them to Baylor. In fact, I’m the only Baylor graduate, that I’m aware of, in my whole family. My politics, by Texas standards, run to the liberal side. Shoot, I’m not even Baptist. While at Baylor, I was on work-study, which in today’s vernacular would be called a scholarship student. I bring this point up to tell you that this is where my relationship with the Baylor Alumni Association began, and it was the university that made the introduction.
My time at the alumni association as a student worker was a wonderful experience. For a kid who couldn’t make it home frequently, those people became my family. Dr. James Cole was my surrogate dad, checking in with me regularly. Linda Dreyer was my second mother. Jim and Linda Hardwick fussed over me routinely, and the cadre of other staff members looked after me, made me feel welcomed, and nurtured my love affair with Baylor. After I graduated, I was briefly on the board, but then my career and other diversions took my attention elsewhere. In 2000, a friend of mine from college, Mark Kimbell, had become the interim executive director for the association and asked me if I would consider rejoining the board. I didn’t spend a minute thinking about it; I said yes.
Mark spoke enthusiastically about Baylor 2012 and what it would mean to the university and what a crucial role the alumni association would play in its execution. I attended a presentation in Kansas City, where Dr. Robert Sloan spoke about his vision for the university and how he needed the support of alumni everywhere. It was a great crowd and an event that was put together in partnership with the alumni association. That to me is really the last time that I can recall the university and the alumni association working well together. Why or how the wheels fell off the wagon, I can’t say—but they did. Dr. Sloan and the administration had encouraged the BAA to increase staffing to address a number of components within Baylor 2012 that the BAA would take on. After spending roughly a year ramping up staff based upon an agreed fee-for-services arrangement, the proverbial rug was pulled out from under the BAA. The university cut the funding; the BAA had to regroup and significantly cut staffing and reduce programs that they had been providing. Does any of this sound familiar? And that was seven years ago.
There’s been a great deal said about rehashing history and the desire to move forward. I don’t think anyone on either side of this issue would argue that point, but I am reminded of a great quote that says, “Those who ignore history are destined to repeat it.” With each subsequent change in administration or change on the Board of Regents, the ying and yang of how to serve Baylor’s alumni has been debated. What has remained somewhat consistent, until now, was the BAA’s desire to resolve this in private. Again, I speak as only one board member, but I think in our heart of hearts we kept hoping we could resolve this in a less public way. Keep it in the family, so to speak. What changed? Well, frankly, it became obvious that the university administration, whatever its motivation, felt compelled to press its case in the public arena. It finally became apparent to a number of us that a quiet, calm resolution was not in order. That became even more apparent when, on the 150th anniversary of the alumni association, a representative of the Board of Regents came to the BAA’s board meeting not to present a salutation recognizing this auspicious event but to present a proposal for the dissolution of the BAA as we know it. This is the exact language from their proposal: “Please consider this our formal proposal to the BAA to terminate its independent 501 (c) 3 status and become the new Baylor Alumni Association within Baylor University’s Division of Development.” There has been a great deal of representation as to what was proposed. It can be spun any way you want, but that language says give up your charter, pure and simple.
People clearly have opinions about whether the BAA should accept this proposal. While I wouldn’t know Baylor interim president David Garland or Baylor regents Buddy Jones or Dary Stone if they passed me on the street, I don’t doubt their love of Baylor any more than I think they would question mine. What I do question is why the university and the Board of Regents feel the need to reconstitute an alumni organization that already exists.
That should be the singular question that any alumni or supporter of Baylor considering this proposal should ask. If there is a sense that the BAA is not as robust as it should be, then work with the existing organization to strengthen it—not restrict it. If there are better ideas to successfully work with our global span of alumni, suggest it to the BAA. To refuse to attend BAA events, because they are BAA events, should be embarrassing for the university. Ignoring alumni recognitions because it comes from the BAA is insulting to the very alumni we all seek to serve. At the last Distinguished Alumni Award banquet in January, only one current Board of Regents member was in attendance. How sad is that? But perhaps the biggest point I want to make is that to have an argument over who loves Baylor more and who has its best interest at heart is perhaps the silliest argument of all.
I do love Baylor. But Baylor is not the president of the university or the head of the Board of Regents or even, for that matter, the Baylor Alumni Association. Baylor is a Baptist-affiliated, private, liberal arts school that for many will provide the moral compass that guides their future lives. I know it has mine. I strongly believe that the integrity I bring to my own personal life has been most heavily influenced by my parents and the education I received at Baylor.
I’m not authorized to do this, but I bet I’d get the backing of everyone on the BAA’s board. I have a counter-proposal. Rather than go through the effort of what the university is proposing, I recommend this: support the existing 150-year-old alumni organization. I know that we have an open invitation for any member of the Board of Regents to meet with us and share his or her idea and vision of how we can do our jobs better. We want to do our jobs the best we can because, after all, we’re Baylor grads and that’s what we do. You will not find a more committed, dedicated, talented, and great set of people than Jeff Kilgore and his staff. I have seen many BAA presidents, and all of them—our current one, David Lacy included—have a servant leadership approach that would make all of our former Baylor University presidents proud. Let’s just agree that we all want what’s best for Baylor and her place in the world. Join us in serving the best alumni of any university anywhere in the world, and then let’s get back to the business of doing what we do best—educating future leaders. Lori Hirons ’84
New Rochelle, New York
Maintaining independence is seldom a bad idea when politics raises its power-hungry head. You named other private schools—just down the road in good ole Nacogdoches is a state university which is similar in structure. Are there regents that want to make similar changes? Of course. Will it happen? I don't think so, as the alumni have loved their ability to have a say at their school. I believe alumni stay closer to their schools when they have a separate entity to contact. They enjoy that special feeling they experience by the hands-on treatment received every time they either call or come by their alumni office.
I truly believe this is not the time for any entity to attempt to make a change by using intimidation or other means. Enough change is taking place at Baylor. Hopefully, the regents will continue to focus on the more pressing issues while the BAA does the same. The bottom line is that we all want the same outcome, so let’s get back to our jobs and stop this nonsense which is causing a divide. George Ray
There is absolutely no valid reason for the Baylor Alumni Association to give up its independence. Please listen to more knowledgeable persons than I who underscore why BAA must remain a separate voice of our beloved university. J. Michael Herrington ‘64
It seems to be an effort by some power-hungry regents to bully the
administration and remove what little oversight they currently have
over their actions, and I think it stinks. Gary Brinker ‘93, MA '94, PhD '97
Hays, Kansas
I think Baylor's Alumni Association should remain independent of university control. Dr. Loren Bryant ‘69
Sweetwater
If one really learns from history and is aware of what is going on in the world, it’s apparent that a big organization trying to include a small organization is solely political—nothing more! Other arguments and reasoning only cover the truth. It is a power game and has no value for public interests, but only interests of a certain group who is in power. It is after all nothing different from a communistic political gesture in essence.
I am a professional musician/artist who grew up in Hong Kong, lived in the U.S., and now has a home in Europe. I have seen enough to have this conclusion: a true unity is to embrace differences. If one tries to achieve oneness by forcing the idea of no differences, it is only lying to oneself that there is no difference by not accepting differences. A true tragedy to democracy and freedom! We are meant to be a human race of varieties. Let’s remain being different from each other but yet loving! Jimmy Chiang '00
Vienna, Austria
Dr. William Hillis’s response beautifully expresses my desire to keep the BAA independent. Baylor’s uniqueness is important as a Baptist institution. Conforming to be like others is not who we are. For 400 years, Baptists have fought to establish and maintain freedom from control of others. We must hold on to what we have. Bobbye Crawford Lott ‘57
Houston
I have been a life member of the BAA for more than forty years and have
seen all the good that the BAA accomplishes. I am also aware of the
“damage” that the present regents have done under the new regime. I do
not like what they are doing and how dogmatic they are.
They have isolated many of the strong regents in the past. They have
made them feel that the university does not appreciate all the good
that they have accomplished. I think that we are in a crucial time with
the university, not only with the BAA but with the “ruling power” that
these “few” of the regents are using. Their way of “ruling” with that
kind of power is not what the founders of Baylor had in mind. I want
them to keep their hands off the BAA. Carl Shamburger ‘60
Waco
It is very difficult to be out of the inside loop and not know exactly what to think of the current divide between the BAA and the Board of Regents. Without "inside" knowledge, whatever my instincts are can be completely off base, but the only information I can rely on is what comes from the two groups. Candidly, the BAA has been much more forthcoming with information than the university.
My Baylor lineage started with my grandfather and has included my father, myself, my brother, and my two sons. I have just completed eight straight years of Baylor tuition last May with the graduation of my youngest son.
My concerns with Baylor started during my oldest son's sophomore year, when President Sloan and the Board of Regents instigated flat-rate tuition. I certainly shared my concerns and disdain for this move, as it appeared to me to be a way for the university to raise tuition by 30 percent in one year when figured on a thirty-hour basis. I always contended this was a typical school year for most students. The flat-rate tuition was one of the first in many changes under Dr. Sloan and the goals of Baylor 2012.
It appears to me that the crack began to show up around this time and has continued to widen. My sense it that it involves more than just control, extending to the future path of the university. I believe it is tied to the issue that has divided Baptist churches as well—moderate versus fundamentalist. I believe this is the root of the Baylor leadership issue as well. New members of the Board of Regents come on board, and the first question I ask is, “Moderate or fundamentalist?” Same with the school's president. What is on whose agenda?
I wish I knew more. It is disturbing to me that the university is spending the amount of time it is on this issue and not on the day-to-day issues of running the finest institution I know.
I personally know David Lacy and was thrilled that he was going to be president of the BAA. David loves Baylor and has been involved both from a university and a civic standpoint for many years. I think we are represented well and the BAA is being led based on what is best for the university and the BAA.
The bottom line to me is that when the BAA questioned certain issues in Baylor 2012, the lines started getting drawn. They have continued to be drawn, and all that we are left with is discord and a lack of trust between the BAA and the Board of Regents. If the Board of Regents feels threatened by an independent voice reporting on its decisions, then that is more concerning to me than any one action or decision that it might consider or make.
To use the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.” I support the efforts of the BAA and its independence. However, it is imperative that the BAA remain reasonable toward its critics and does not become so embroiled in the fight that it forgets its roots and role with the university. Get it fixed, do it soon, and let's move forward. Jeff McClatchy '73
Olney
As a life member of BAA who is 800 miles and fifty-five years removed from Baylor, I still regard my five years at Baylor as some of the best years of my life. I received a good education, made many wonderful friends, and—best of all—found my wonderful wife there.
Over all these years, I have remained close to Baylor through the Baylor Line and the BAA. I think it is very important for the BAA to remain an independent organization that supports Baylor but also offers an independent view of the happenings at Baylor. I sincerely hope BAA will maintain its independent status. Tom Black ‘54
Columbus, Georgia
Many of us are watching, albeit from a distance, how this will play out. We hear you. We appreciate the angst this creates. We understand what is not stated. We appreciate your leadership and representation. Dr. Christine Kessler Chenoweth ‘76
Kerrville
Stay independent. This sounds like a hostile takeover. Jack Williams
In my opinion, the Baylor Alumni Association should remain independent from Baylor University. You have my support. Matt Ray '76
Austin
It is my opinion that the present administration of Baylor University wants control of all avenues of Baylor life, which could in the near future lead to a complete break from the Baptist belief and influence. We have seen this happen even in our Baptist churches when a few get in control and answer to no one; the result is that the church itself has been watered down to the point that no one is accountable even to God.
This push to move the BAA under the control of the regents is a move to water down the Baylor traditions and directions that will no longer support the beliefs of Baptists and move to a complete break from a private Christian university.
My vote is to stay independent and continue working for a strong Baptist university that we can all be proud of. Carroll D. Knight ‘62
Austin
I just read a comment from a person supporting the proposal made by the
Board of Regents. It stated, “Baylor does not need a watchdog. Baylor
needs a guide dog.”
I have spent the better part of three years watching a group of
so-called “guide dogs” make decisions affecting the lives of a great
number of individuals. These “guide dogs” seem to be headed down a path
established by an arrogant attitude that suggests they always know what
is best for everyone. The questioning of their direction has been
largely silent, and one hopes they haven’t ventured down a path of no
return.
The Board of Regents should be able to handle the scrutiny of critical
review, unless arrogance has displaced sensitivity and logical
reasoning. Disagreement should not override progress; it should make it
better! Stay unique and independent!! Chris Lott ‘74
Southlake
The alumni association has served Baylor's interests in an excellent way through all these years. I believe the three responses by Jack Loftis, Paul Powell, and Dr. William Hillis provide the best rationale for remaining independent, and I would concur with all three.
Please continue to serve the university as you have in the past—courageously and honestly. Thank you for all the fine work you do! Name Withheld
Being a Methodist until marriage and kids, I was attracted to Baylor
because it provided arguably the best practical undergraduate business
education of any major school in Texas. This is still true thirty-two
years later! Having married a Longhorn Episcopalian and having sent
sons to UT-Austin and Washington and Lee, I believe that if Baylor
loses its independence it will lose standing nationally and
internationally. An independent alumni association is a key element.
This dogmatic position by the regents will damage Baylor. Scott Bruner ‘77
Texarkana
I am a life member and work at a small consulting firm that works with alumni associations and universities across the country. We have even worked with Baylor, though we have not been able to work with the alumni association—much to my dismay! I find it very telling, however, that during a time when alumni are sharing what they really think is important, the university has been incredibly reluctant to engage them to ask their opinions.
I have also worked with several of the schools mentioned in Jeff Kilgore's article as having similar relationships with their respective universities, yet none of those other institutions seem to have it out for their alumni associations like Baylor seems to have it out for the BAA. I hope that the license agreement was written in such a way that the university will not be able to destroy the BAA.
However, it has happened at other schools. I believe New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT) took its alumni association to court and took away their name and right to affiliate in any way. I really hope that this does not happen with the BAA and Baylor.
I love Baylor, but I have to say that I support the BAA in this process. The relationship has worked well for 150 years, so why is there so much conflict? I graduated in 2005, so I remember what Sloan did to Baylor and the atmosphere on campus. Now that he is gone, we should be healing and moving forward. It saddens me that such a great and unique university would be willing to jeopardize its reputation with alumni and donors just because a few regents can't seem to let go of the past and move forward. Stay strong, BAA!! Carrie Love Plowman '05
Houston
We think the BAA should remain independent. John '64 and Sandra Gardner Jessup '63
Garland
I am very grateful for the independence of our alumni association. The Board of Regents is engaged in a media-posturing event that can only be described as bullying. I wish not to follow all the other schools, as proclaimed by the regents, to fold into the controllership of this new governing body that wants to strip us of our independence, which sets us apart from others. John Vick ‘86
Trinity
The BAA needs to stay just as it is. It is a great organization that runs itself very well. The BAA does not need any interim people sticking their interim noses into BAA business. Stay independent! Cyndi Williams Moore ‘75
Little Rock, Arkansas
Let the Board of Regents do its business and leave the alumni association to do its! I think Baylor will do better under these conditions. Bill Sweet '52
Horseshoe Bay
I strongly agree that the Baylor Alumni Association should remain independent. What are these heavy-handed trustees worried about? It sounds to me like they want more power to do some things that the majority of ex-students would strongly disagree with. Our independent alumni association is a voice for the majority, and I’m proud to be a member. Jim Alford ‘58
Brownsville
I have been a life member of the Baylor Alumni Association since 1960, appreciate all you and your staff do for Baylor University, and want to continue my membership with the BAA for a long time. Because you are "on the ground," so to speak, and have your eyes and ears tuned to what is happening in Waco, I appreciate this independent voice to provide me with additional information that I know would not be forthcoming if it had to come through the current administration filter.
Thank you for your contribution and courage in the face of this new pressure to conform to one voice. Roy Lykes '60
Silver Spring, Maryland
As a life member, I would like to add my voice to those who are against the request by the Baylor regents. This is an unnecessary move by Baylor and appears to be one in which the primary purpose is to gain control over an organization whose independent voice is considered threatening. Baylor's actions smack of paranoia, and their desire to exercise control over an organization whose mandate is to support Baylor can certainly be characterized as ugly. Scott MacEwan ‘79
Stockton, California
The response by Jack Loftis '57, editor emeritus of the Houston Chronicle, was exactly on point. The goal of the Baylor Board of Regents is total editorial control of all media communication involving Baylor. All the other reasons set forth by the regents is simply "verbal camouflage."
More than a few Baylor insiders believe that the regents want to shut down the independent voice of the alumni association before naming the next Baylor president. That way there will be no organized criticism or response from the alumni. The regents will then be able to control all the media communications and, naturally, all the news will be good news, whether things at Baylor are truly "good" or not. Whether things are "good" at Baylor is ultimately a matter of personal opinion, but essentially that will hinge upon whether alumni agree with the vision and course of direction set forth by the regents.
If the Baylor Alumni Association surrenders its independent voice to the regents, then there will surely be some new alumni group formed to fill the vacuum left by the BAA. It will not have the strength, the tradition, or the respect that the Baylor Alumni Association has. It will be belittled and dismissed by the regents as simply an inconsequential group of disgruntled alumni.
I urge the Baylor Alumni Association to not surrender to the regents. Do not give up your most powerful assets—your independent voice, your solid alumni base, and your years of tradition and respect in the Baylor community. Robert B. Whitaker ’75, JD ‘77
Victoria
I've had it with the Baylor administration and the Board of Regents. If the Baylor Alumni Association is a problem for them, then they have a very serious problem with me. My recommended response to their proposal: no way! Raymond B. Tucker ‘57
Panama City, Florida
I stand behind the BAA and its independence. This independence is what makes Baylor unique. Allowing the BAA to act in this manner is a “checks and balances” system while also giving former alumni a voice. Do we really want Baylor University to be controlled only by the Board of Regents, a group that is self-perpetuating? The choice is clear in my mind. Bradley A. Goebel '91
Horseshoe Bay
I just finished reading the comments by Jack Loftis, Paul Powell, and Dr. Hillis. I think that when three such qualified men share the same belief and encourage the alumni association to stay independent, then we need to listen. I stand in agreement with all three of them. The Baylor Alumni Association has been an excellent source of information for me about Baylor since I became a life member in the mid-1970s.
I think that you have always functioned with excellence, and I hope to see the Baylor Alumni Association continue as is for a long time. What is the old adage—“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” That is definitely colloquial, but it applies in this situation. Carol Parr Boring ‘71
Bremond
I am a proud alumna of Baylor University and have been a member of the BAA since I graduated. I may only pay my annual dues and am only one of thousands, but I'm still proud of my university, the education I received, and the Christian influence it gave me! However, I am not proud of the slippery slope the Board of Regents seems to be taking. If they force the merger of the BAA and squelch our independent voice, then I will sever my association with the BAA and I'm sure I won't be the only one. Brenda Elise Baumann Rea ‘80
Everett, Washington
My instinct is to support a continued independent association, but it would be immensely helpful if in your next communication you told us what the principle specific issues are between the association and the regents. What specifically do the regents dislike about the association that would provoke them to such a drastic proposal? Harlan Murray ‘55
Wilton, Connecticut
I think that the Baylor Alumni Association should continue its independent status. The organization has served Baylor alumni well for many years. I go with the philosophy: “If it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.” Elizabeth Norman Bliss ‘64
Valrico, Florida
I support the continued independence of the BAA. It is always healthy to have multiple viewpoints presented and respected. Kathy Cheavens Hargrove ‘57
Dallas
I am in favor of the BAA remaining independent of Baylor University. I am a life member of the association—number 72 or 73 to join, and my husband was right after me. We also paid for the life membership of our son, who graduated in 1992. My husband has served as a director of the association, and we know this association is there to back up Baylor University. What will happen to the life members of the association if everything is turned over to the university? I assume we will not be life members anymore after paying for this privilege. I hope the BAA will remain independent! Minnie S. Robinson ‘67
I am a life member of the BAA and, as an out-of-state alumnus, I have always loved the Baylor Line. It is a great way to keep in touch, and it has a balanced perspective and an informative feel to it. The university publication has always seemed like an advertising magazine—something you would send to a perspective student, not to a member of the family. I am surprised and sad to see what is happening at Baylor these days. I sincerely hope that the BAA remains an active and independent voice. Dorinda Peach McCourt ‘95
Bloomfield Hills, Michigan
Let me voice my support for the Baylor Alumni Association and the quest
for it to remain an independent status and a strong and vital part of
the university.
Sally Eaton Prestwood '58
Tyler
I feel a strong affection for Baylor. Just being on the campus during those years shaped my life—the dedicated, gifted teachers and administrators teaching by example as well as with words in the classroom and at Chapel.
The efforts of the alumni association and the publication of the Baylor Line have maintained that devotion through these years. I cannot comprehend how putting the BAA under the "umbrella" (control by the Baylor regents) could accomplish anything positive. Perhaps they have strayed too far from the designation by definition of who they are.
The Unabridged Dictionary states: "a trustee is one trusted to keep or administer something—a member of a board entrusted with administering the funds and directing the policy of an institution or organization" and "a regent (derived from the Latin 'to rule') one who rules exercising vicarious authority--one who rules or reigns."
The Collegiate Dictionary states: "a trustee is one in which confidence is placed, one to whom something is entrusted—occupying a position of trust" and "a regent (prp ‘regere’) to rule, one who rules or reigns, a member of a governing board."
These words define a shift from "trusted advisor" to "ruler." Considering our current situation I know you have been reminded many time of Jefferson's observation about the effects of power and absolute power.
Please stand firm! Baylor needs the BAA more than at any other time in her history. Name Withheld
I think it is important to maintain an independent voice as a means of accountability and credibility. There is no reason that the relationship between the BAA and the university must look like those of the majority of other schools. There is also no reason that they must inherently be in opposition to one another. There have been times when my own opinion lined up with the BAA and other times with the university. I appreciate seeing an issue from both perspectives. Lisa Baker Brimberry ‘82
Katy
Baylor University and the Baylor Alumni Association are both served best by continuation as separate entities. The Baylor Alumni Association should never become a self-serving public relations tool of this or any future administration. William H. Williams '56
Kerrville
As a missionary in Quito, Ecuador, I am watching the disagreement going on between the BAA and the Board of Regents in Waco. From this distance it seems to be a sad, unnecessary, and divisive debate.
However, something stands out loud and clear, and it is that the regents and Baylor administrators do want to be considered as operating on Christian principles. But when a contract has been agreed on and signed with every good intent, as happened between the two entities in the 1990s, then when one entity reneges on that agreement years later it seems it then is not operating on those Christian principles.
I was in real estate for ten years before coming to the mission field, and I cannot imagine a family buying and moving into a house and, sixteen years later, deciding they didn't like it anymore and wanting out of their agreement to buy it. That kind of behavior would lead to chaos.
The same holds true for the regents today. We will have chaos if they do not honor contracts made by their predecessors. Those men (both sides) in 1993 made the agreement in good faith, but it seems the regents now believe they have the right and freedom to obliterate what is already in place, not to mention the fact that it has worked very well for 150 years. Tempy Dell Burress McCombe ‘66
Quito, Ecuador
I was appalled by the actions of the Baylor Board of Regents to initiate a takeover of the BAA in such a manner as to completely disregard the history and service of the BAA.
An independent voice that represents the alumni of Baylor is vital to communication, dialogue, and the truth in all matters that pertain to Baylor now or in the future.
An independent organization to voice constructive criticism when necessary, provide a sounding board for alumni, support Baylor traditions, and keep the alumni of Baylor University informed in a non-biased manner is essential for Baylor, Baylor graduates, Baylor students, and anyone who loves Baylor. Samuel W. Escobedo '66
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
I firmly support leaving the alumni association as is. I have liked the Baylor Line for a long time—have been a life member for long time. I do not understand the administration/regents position. Leave the BAA alone. James B. Fox ’49
Horseshoe Bay
Please do not accept the administration and Board of Regents proposal to dissolve the Baylor Alumni Association. An independent alumni association serves Baylor very well. The Board of Regents is totally wrong. Carolyn Becker Newman ‘53
Austin
I am voting to keep an independent BAA organization that has the opportunity to present independent editorial views and not merely publish reflections/echoes of Baylor University’s governing bodies. This independence gives one a chance to hear from different perspectives on very important topics regarding the university. Patty J. Murphy ‘74
Cranberry Township, Pennsylvania
I think the Baylor Alumni Association should remain independent. I can see nothing positive coming from the regents’ proposal. Duncan Manning '80
San Angelo
Stand firm! Lou Beth Bailey Birdwell '71, MSPE '72
Garland
I am firmly in favor of retaining the current legal agreement and status of the BAA with regard to its relationship with the university. Gary M. Clark ‘57
Lawrence, Kansas
Frankly, I am concerned that Baylor is seeking to "conform to the world," instead of remaining a beacon of light unlike any other in our world—a higher education institution that stands firm on the freedom given to every believer in Jesus Christ and that will not yield to the "image and pressures" of this world.
This year the BAA celebrates 150 years of its unique, independent, and yet very supportive alumni voice. Does it not strike anyone else rather odd that the Board of Regents and others are so intent to see the BAA come under its control in this year, of all years? Besides, we've been through this once before and the issue was supposedly resolved in an amicable manner. Why the rancor again now?
As a life member of the BAA, I confess that I not only do not comprehend what the university's big concern is, but I also feel that the university is being divisive and belittles itself in the process. I sometimes get the feeling that the university is now concerned more with the money it can get through the alumni than anything else. I honestly feel that Baylor is getting greedy in its Baylor 2012 campaign drive and is seeking every dollar it can get from every source—even if it has to destroy a 150-year-old tradition to get its hands on the paltry (by comparison) $1.8 million worth of BAA funds. I pray that I am completely wrong in this view of their actions, but I also pray that the BAA will be able to stand firm and continue as a strong but independent voice in support of Baylor despite this petty attack!
To be candid, if the university insists and succeeds in taking over the BAA, I will no longer contribute to any of the university programs, events, scholarships ,or anything else. I am not one of the wealthy Baylor alumni, nor have I been able to contribute a great deal of money over the years, but I have given when able and have a feeling that I will not be the only one who will withdraw financial support if this takeover effort succeeds.
I am afraid that I have come across as a condemning, negative person, but that is not the case. I very dearly love Baylor, and was so proud when my husband of then forty years was awarded his Alumni by Choice "diploma" this last February 14. I have only been able to afford to come to Waco for a few Homecomings, but I made a special effort to make my fortieth class reunion at the 2008 Homecoming and was so very happy and proud! So this news has greatly distressed me.
I supported the BAA the last time the university tried this some years back, and I was relieved and overjoyed when the BAA was able to remain a freestanding agency then. I am genuinely concerned that it might not be able to do so this time, since the university has become so petty as to withdraw so many of its previously agreed-upon services and connections with the BAA. Lynora (Lyn) Isaacson Simms ‘68
Shreveport, Louisiana
Please strengthen every effort to remain independent. BAA is an anchor of stability in a frequently stormy sea as the Baylor Board of Regents sometimes rocks the ole Baylor boat when they get on board. Don ’49 and Bonnie Griffith Goodwin ‘52
Fort Worth
The BAA's independence is a key ingredient in balancing Baylor's dual purpose of offering academic excellence in a Christian environment. Judge Abner McCall and President Herbert Reynolds—and past Board of Regents—recognized this fact, and they trusted the relationship between Baylor and the BAA. Winston Churchill said, "The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you can see." When one looks back at BAA's history, it is clear that BAA's independence is vital to Baylor's future. Matt Dow '81
Austin
The Board of Regents, in this action and others over the past few
years, has certainly not distinguished itself. In my opinion, the BAA
should stay independent. Regents have nothing to fear from an
independent, enlightened alumni unless they are doing harm to our
educational goals, reputation, or heritage. Duane McCullough '56
Sugar Land
Please keep the independence of the alumni association. Do not let it be controlled by the regents or president. It is important for the alumni to have an independent voice. Martha Pillans Benfield ‘67
Austin
As a longtime life member of the alumni association, I wish for it to remain independent and to reject any proposal to merge it into the control of the regents. Don Mabray '56
Georgetown
I've been keeping up with the debate and can say that I solidly come down on the side of maintaining an independent BAA. It is this independence and autonomy that characterizes the simple freedoms that we cherish as Christians, United States citizens, and citizens of the human race—not something I'm willing to give up.....at any price! Dr. Jonathan Cude ‘80
Irving
Board of Regents of Baylor University, please allow the Baylor Alumni Association to remain an independent body supporting Baylor University as it has for many, many years. Julie Hermansen Turner '67, MSPE '68
Dallas
The Baylor Alumni Association needs to remain independent of the Board of Regents of Baylor University. One hundred and fifty years shows the greatness of the BAA. Keep up the good work of keeping us informed about other alumni and the progress of Baylor University. Sharon Brock '63
Please, please, please, please continue standing up for the BAA's independence. The fiasco that the regents continues to perpetuate by hiring and firing president after president tells me that, at this time, their ability to make decisions for the good of the university is severely compromised. We need the BAA to remain an independent voice of reason. Rhonda Rolf '90
Austin
We support an independent Baylor Alumni Association. John Kent ’67 and Evelyn Witte Hamilton ‘67
Dallas
I'm a proud graduate of Baylor University, wife of a Baylor graduate, mother of a fourth-generation Baylor Business Fellow and a life member of the Baylor Alumni Association. Over the last few years, I've grown weary of making excuses for Baylor and some of the confusing and inexplicable actions of the administration and Board of Regents. The current proposal to the BAA is the most disheartening of all.
I'm disappointed that the Board of Regents chose to deliver their proposal via a media blitz, rather than a private offer to the BAA. I'm disappointed that Dr. Garland has joined the Board of Regents in support of this request. And I'm especially disappointed in the Baylor administration's efforts to gain student support of an action the students cannot understand, since they have no relationship with the BAA.
I can't imagine why the Board of Regents decided to make this sudden request to the BAA. How can it be a good idea to alienate your most invested (financially and psychologically) alumni? Doesn't the Board of Regents realize that the alumni who pay dues to stay updated and affiliated with Baylor are much more likely to be advocates and donors, and to send their children to Baylor, than those who just get their degree and never take any steps to reconnect with their alma mater?
The BAA has been asked to consider the cost of maintaining independence. Has the Board of Regents considered the cost to Baylor of taking away the BAA's independence?
I'm puzzled at the contention by the Board of Regents that Baylor is the only private university with an independently chartered alumni association, since schools like MIT, Georgetown, USC, Duke, and Harvard also have them. I think most would agree these are tier-one universities, a group that Baylor seeks to join through Baylor 2012. The MIT and Harvard alumni associations even appoint members to the school’s governing board.
I would like to say to the Board of Regents that the Baylor community is tired of heavy-handed actions like this. Please stop bickering and manage Baylor with business sense and Christian integrity. I say to the Baylor Alumni Association, please keep our independent charter and continue to be an advocate for Baylor and her alumni. Kathy Barger Hollomon '81
Corsicana
As a life member of the Baylor Alumni Association, I want it known that I firmly believe that the alumni association remain independent. It was founded to be and should remain so! Mary Ann Kendrick Benson ‘67
Austin
The BAA should remain separate. Issues with Baylor leadership over the past few years have publicly tainted the reputation of this school. I don’t think that most of the alumni identify with them anymore. Randy Kemp '94
Round Rock
Normally, I am not prone to communicate to events that are ongoing, but I feel I must now. Please do not give in to the Baylor regents. There are too many organizations and individuals who feel that they must go along to get along. When the regents do something that is not necessarily in the best interests of Baylor or its graduations, someone must speak out. That voice may never be heard if you report "up the chain of command" Lucien Whitlock '66
Crestview, Florida
I agree with the BAA’s position of separation. I read somewhere that UT-Austin and A&M also have independent alumni associations. So if its good enough for the Longhorns and the Aggies, then what’s the problem? Jack M. Dubose ‘51
Gonzales
I am enjoying reading the current fall 2009 issue of the Baylor Line concerning the great history of the BAA. However, I am concerned about Baylor's negative and hostile attitude toward the BAA. I was surprised by Baylor's disrespectful and demanding attitude toward the BAA during its attempt to fully celebrate its 150th anniversary. Baylor's demand that the BAA be dissolved and integrated into the administration is alarming.
With Baylor's strong desire to terminate the BAA I am very concerned for its future, whether it is dissolved into the administration in the immediate future or allowed to continue to function independently. In either case, I fear for its life. I assume that the BAA's membership of 19,000 is only a small percentage of the total alumni. Even if Baylor does not absorb it immediately, I fear the negative attitude of Baylor toward the BAA will cause this number to dwindle in the future. I think Baylor will hinder the BAA from advertising itself on campus and capturing students' attention. When students become alumni, they will not know the “whats and whys” of the BAA and its many resources and benefits. Already, Baylor's Baylor magazine, for example, has many younger alumni wondering why they receive two similar Baylor publications. Ken Durham '60
Longview
It is important for the BAA to remain independent and continue to be a voice for alumni. We support you 100 percent. Johnnie Hughes Hatfield ‘67
Dallas
Thank you for directing me to the Baylor proposal. For what it is worth, I favor continuing an independent alumni association. Don Miller
Stand firm. Stay independent. Many are counting on you to just that. Sarah Ragland Jackson ‘61
Nacogdoches
We are behind the BAA 100 percent as a valuable independent asset to Baylor! Presented at such an inappropriate time, the proposal reflects personal agendas, poor judgment, and an obvious inability to lead for the good of Baylor. Some of these regents are overdue for replacement! Please know that the majority of alumni want to remain independent. Tom '52 and Jean Raven Brunson '56
Fairview
Hold the line. We need the BAA to stay in the position it currently holds. Carl Young ‘60
Crosby
I just wanted to let you know that the entire Fanning clan down here in San Antonio supports the continued independence of the BAA. Mike Fanning '78, PhD '92
San Antonio
If the Board of Regents tries to further divorce itself and the administration from the BAA, which has a continuing presence on campus by contract, they will look like idiots and shoot themselves in their financial foot. What are they going to do—try to pretend that the alumni center, which the BAA has exclusive rights of occupancy, just isn't there? Do they think the BAA can't set up websites using Baylor's name? That the BAA can't easily get the names and email addresses of all current Baylor students to recruit them to BAA?
The BAA being on the outs with the Board of Regents will probably encourage students to join when they graduate—the idea will appeal to the degree of youthful rebelliousness that all undergrads tend to have. Anyone on the outs with those probably perceived as the old, fusty, rich, doctrinaire, remote regents, so removed from the daily life of the undergraduate and responsible for tuition increases, will probably seem more appealing to a recent graduate. "Get up their noses, join BAA!" These people are out of touch with the real world, which can so often happen with a small, self-perpetuating body. Anne Schell
The "proposal" (ultimatum?) that the BAA should dissolve and cease to exist as an independent group is proof positive that the association must maintain its independent status. Gracie Hatfield Hilton ‘67
Arlington
Even though I am only an Alumni by Choice (conferred on me by Dr. Herbert Reynolds), I gave twenty years to the betterment of Baylor University and the various communities at large.
As was the case when Dr. Reynolds so appropriately changed Baylor’s charter, making the trustees regents and thus saving the “university” as a university, my fear is that any autonomy or voice from a different perspective is lost.
Recent and now very historic events should demonstrate the importance and undeniable need to have someone in the wilderness making observations that provide other views, especially from those who have a real, honest, truly vested interest in maintaining the integrity of the “university.”
Of course, on the other side, is the fear generated within those in “control” that might challenge their decisions unless they are confident enough in their positions and actions to welcome open dialogue, discussions, and alternative opinions.
So, I encourage you to continue to bear the flag of trust and honor above the extraordinary institution that has set an example of higher teaching and learning throughout its history with the alumni association by its side promoting, encouraging, and helping it to achieve its mission. Calvin B. Smith
Pueblo, Colorado
Please continue to fight for BAA's independence. Never give up. I cannot understand the administration's obsession with taking over the association. There are ample other situations that need to be addressed other than this. David Walters
I am far from fully informed about this issue. However, I do support continuing the 501(c)(3) status of the BAA. Dr. David R. Lemons ’84, MS ‘87
Springdale, Arkansas
I am for an independent Baylor Alumni Association. Elaine McKay Harman ‘68
Dallas
As a Texas Baptist pastor and life member of the Baylor Alumni Association, I urge you to say no, no, no to the Board of Regents’ proposal to control, silence, and dispose of our alumni voice. Texas Baptists and Baylor alumni recognize manipulation and intimidation. Fundamentalists within the Southern Baptist Convention taught us well! In the spirit of Presidents McCall and Reynolds, keep the BAA "a free and faithful" voice for Baylor alumni. Mark A. Newton ‘85
San Marcos
We wish the BAA to remain independent! David ’64 and Kay Pendergraft McAtee '67
Dallas
It is important to retain independence. Keep our alumni association separate. Susan Pownell Walko ‘79
Clifton, Virginia
We favor the current relationship between the BAA and Baylor University. Keep BAA independent! Eugene ’62 and Judith Ann Wright Gibbs ‘62
Janesville, Wisconsin
If the Baylor Alumni Association gives in, no organization independent of the university will have any ground or unification to fight back when the board or administration does something contrary to what Baylor stands for. This means that the future of the university as well as the current students is at stake with the whims of the administration.
It's our job as alumni to look out for the continuance of what it is to be Baylor and a Baylor graduate as well as the impact decisions have on current and future students. This struggle goes on only because many people in positions of leadership feel the need to squelch opposition in order to maintain their positions. They are not truly looking at what is good for the university as a whole—past, present, and future.
As a 2007 graduate, I had the distinct disgust to watch the majority of this battle from a front-row seat. If it were not for the alumni association, no one would have had a voice in many of those gray times. An independent organization with a true interest in the university's future is absolutely necessary to protect the students, faculty, and alumni without fear of repercussion. Amy Marie Davis ’07
Schertz
I am stating my preference for an independent Baylor Alumni Association! Bettie Harrison Hankamer '66
Houston
Please stay independent! Laura Hilton Hallmon '96, JD '99
Mansfield
Never, never, never, never, never, never, never ever give up your autonomy! Ray Stoker Jr. ’61, JD ‘64
Odessa
Having studied the founding and history of our Baylor Alumni Association, I am compelled by what I have learned to respond to those in the interim administration and the Board of Regents who foster the termination of the independent 501(c)(3) status of the BAA and the efforts to make the BAA part of the Baylor administration.
The solid, undeniable answer is, "Never." We should never lose our independence, our unique support of the university, our editorial freedom, and our forthright views as alumni on the direction of the university. Not an administrator or a regent should be able to buy us. This freedom is not for sale—not now or ever.
Baylor University is unique partly because of the leadership and support of the BAA for the last 150 years.
All parties should just simply celebrate Baylor University and thank God for this jewel and thank God for the BAA and its unique status that helps to make Baylor unique in history, culture, and purpose. James F. Palmer ’58, MA ‘60
Dallas
Very well stated. Please continue to hold steadfast in your efforts to remain independent and thus free to exercise what the BAA deems best suited for the organization! Name Withheld
The university needs an independent voice to keep the regents in check. This is the first thing in over twenty years to move me to actually pay for a membership to the alumni association. I want to support the alumni association in its mission. Will Dorward ‘86
Dallas
I want the BAA to remain independent. Mary Lil Bomar Chappell '67
San Antonio
Officially recognized as the general alumni organization of Baylor University, the Baylor Alumni Association is an independent legal entity.
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